What the kit looked like, back when I purchased it, 45 years ago approximately. I no longer have the box it came in.
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What the model looks like now, after spending who knows how long, in a paper bag with 2 other nascar models.
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Been tearing it apart.
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I noticed that the seat doesn't look quite right. The higher bolster should be on the right side of the seat. Just my opinion.
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You can see that the decals back then left a lot to be desired. I don't think they got this bad from age. I just don't think they were as good back then.
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The body is completely stripped and the parts are all in a zip lock bag.
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:) Mark, if you don't know, plain ol' scotch tape will lift off most of those decals.
Hey Super, I think I would leave all those MPC parts in the bag and use the body on a Revell Charger chassis. I know you can scratch build all the other stuff you will need and there are tons of reference pics on the net. Now that's just me but I am interested in what you will do with this. The original is about as accurate as a news report from CNN but back in their day they were the bomb as that is all we had. Good luck, I'm gonna watch!
Quote from: john2 on November 06, 2018, 02:55:53 PM
:) Mark, if you don't know, plain ol' scotch tape will lift off most of those decals.
John, I tried that and had to end up using my sanding stick.
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 06, 2018, 03:56:02 PM
Hey Super, I think I would leave all those MPC parts in the bag and use the body on a Revell Charger chassis. I know you can scratch build all the other stuff you will need and there are tons of reference pics on the net. Now that's just me but I am interested in what you will do with this. The original is about as accurate as a news report from CNN but back in their day they were the bomb as that is all we had. Good luck, I'm gonna watch!
George, I already have the amt 71 charger kit. But I don't think this body will fit that chassis. And as far as reference pictures go, I haven't found any under hood shots, chassis shots, or interior shots of any 1971 nascar chargers. Think Ill just rebuild this one the best I can.
Try looking for Ray Nichels Engineering and photos. I think most of the Chrysler stuff came from there in one form or another anyway. I would think if you can find some of the photos of underhood shots of Chargers from 68 thru 73 you would be in the ball park. I am sure it irritates the MOPAR guys but a Dodge is a Dodge is a Dodge. Other than the sheet metal, they all looked alike to me. Even though I cant tell you where to look, those pics are out there, you just have to search a little. Try pulling up some of Petty's stuff, its not that different and even some of his was Nichels stuff.
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 07, 2018, 11:46:05 AM
Try looking for Ray Nichels Engineering and photos. I think most of the Chrysler stuff came from there in one form or another anyway. I would think if you can find some of the photos of underhood shots of Chargers from 68 thru 73 you would be in the ball park. I am sure it irritates the MOPAR guys but a Dodge is a Dodge is a Dodge. Other than the sheet metal, they all looked alike to me. Even though I cant tell you where to look, those pics are out there, you just have to search a little. Try pulling up some of Petty's stuff, its not that different and even some of his was Nichels stuff.
Believe me , George. I have been looking. Luckily I found a you tube video of the car, I'm going to do, and was able to decipher what contengencies it had on the front fenders. The stuff under neath wont matter that much, cause its just a shelfer. How many times have you heard that cop out statement? Just call it a shelfer and you don't have to work that hard on it.
If it "Looks" right who cares what is under it? 90% dont know what it is supposed to look like, 6% "Think" they know and about 4% really do. What are your chances one of the 4% is gonna pick it up and look at it? Have fun with it, thats what your are supposed to do.
The tires have raised letters so I am shaving them off to put decals on the tires
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Been sanding on the body to get it ready for primer. I have a few spots I need to putty.
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Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 07, 2018, 04:01:45 PM
If it "Looks" right who cares what is under it? 90% dont know what it is supposed to look like, 6% "Think" they know and about 4% really do. What are your chances one of the 4% is gonna pick it up and look at it? Have fun with it, thats what your are supposed to do.
You are correct, sir.
Good one , Dave. If I tried to do that the shelf would be crushed to the floor and I would be in the hospital.
Ah...David......wish I could afford those type of shelving units.....lol
Quote from: sentsat71 on November 08, 2018, 08:22:10 AM
Ah...David......wish I could afford those type of shelving units.....lol
Yeah, but how do you keep the dust off the models?
Looking forward to your rebuild.
Quote from: TarheelRick on November 08, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
Quote from: sentsat71 on November 08, 2018, 08:22:10 AM
Ah...David......wish I could afford those type of shelving units.....lol
Yeah, but how do you keep the dust off the models?
Looking forward to your rebuild.
Rick, I use those cases they sell at hobby lobby. They are $7.99 but with a 40 % off coupon , well do the math. But its pretty reasonable and they look good, plus they are stackable.
Quote from: David Bogard on November 07, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
"Shelfers Unite!!" My builds are shelfers. I am a shelfer!!
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Man David...How'd you get up there? ( GREAT pic by the way) LOL...Where's all the kits? Or...where's all the builds?? I have a few of those very shelves. They do come in handy....
Body is sanded and washed and ready for primer, and then I noticed the front picture, and realized the front spoiler was not centered correctly. A mistake I made 45 years ago when I first built this model. I will need to go back and remove it, and reinstall it correctly. If I had not taken this wip picture, I don't think I would have caught it, till I took the final pictures, and that would have been too late.
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Mark why not just add a little to the chin spoiler? Now you know and I know there was a rule on how big they could be back then but who is gonna notice? It wouldn't be enough to really notice and there are very few around today that really know what the size should be. Might be easier than trying to get it off and repositioned.
Hey Mark,
This is looking good. Maybe I'll finish mine (Jim Vandiver #31) one day............
Is this version gonna be a road course car? Noticed the fuel filler on the right side. Or did I miss your explaination?
Great work as always !!
That's a great idea, George. I will check my ref pic of the front of this car and see if I should shorten it or lengthen it. And yes it is a road course car. Good eye there , Jim.
:) David, if that is you on the shelf .............. you look like that guy on " My Favorite Martin. " I think his name was Tim, not sure.
He also got caught for speeding on " Andy Griffith " and expected his dad to bail him out.
John2, that is NOT David on the shelf nor is it Bill Bixby, it is Hemilgarn J. Kornhauser. He is the man responsible for the Type-3 Hybird 58 Max Interval Eludium K-72 High Volume Bakewell Fuel Anti-Cavatation unit with Hollingsworth up-grade kit and adjustable Blivit Tube Extension. I thought everyone knew that. Ask MarkJ, he'll tell ya! I'll bet he will even scratch one to add to the Charger.
Body is nice and clean. This is going to be another good wip to watch. That front spoiler should be an easy fix for you Mark.... Looking GOOD!!!
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 17, 2018, 10:29:14 AM
John2, that is NOT David on the shelf nor is it Bill Bixby, it is Hemilgarn J. Kornhauser. He is the man responsible for the Type-3 Hybird 58 Max Interval Eludium K-72 High Volume Bakewell Fuel Anti-Cavatation unit with Hollingsworth up-grade kit and adjustable Blivit Tube Extension. I thought everyone knew that. Ask MarkJ, he'll tell ya! I'll bet he will even scratch one to add to the Charger.
Your absolutely right , George. But I planned on putting one of those deals on my next build. A Kyle Busch IndyCar. A fantasy build that I hope comes true. .............................No way in h e double hockey sticks would I ever build a Kyle busch anything.
Thanks, Gary and David. I have two more of these old mpc kits to deconstruct and rebuild, but I'm not going to deconstruct as much on them, as I did on this one. I'm just going to paint the chassis what it should be after I remove only certain pieces from it. Like the engine and anything that came chromed in the kit. The main thing to concentrate on these builds is the painting of the body and making decals for them. Like I said before the fit on these kits is really pretty good. In fact a lot better than most amt kits I have built.
LOL....I'm with you 100% on the K. Bush thing. Don't like him and NEVER will.....
Kyle Who??? Guys, I have never heard of HER. I take it since Damitca the "Queen of Crash" has quit, that means Kyle is the only female driver in the series? She's the one they call "Popeye" right?
:) Well, every now and then, I ask a question on one of these forums, and wish I had not. I think that is one of them. lol Usually it had to do with computerese.
Build on Mark. I wish you well with your model. :D
And, I do now remember Bill Bixby. Thanks.
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 17, 2018, 05:33:35 PM
Kyle Who??? Guys, I have never heard of HER. I take it since Damitca the "Queen of Crash" has quit, that means Kyle is the only female driver in the series? She's the one they call "Popeye" right?
Here's another female driver you may have never heard of, Hallie Deegan. She kind of looks like Danica but a little taller and I believe she's a lot more athletic. Last summer she chrome horned a guy and won a race in pretty spectacular fashion. I believe it was a K&N race. She might be some one to watch in the future.
Chrome Horned? Hahahaha! I thought I had heard em all but thats a first for me, only from you Mark. I do know Hallie and I think she is much better lookin' than the Queen of Crunch ever could be or thought she was. I'll be willing to bet you never see Hallie spin one to the RIGHT like Damitca always did. Hope she does well and goes far, Kyle needs another girl to race with, providing one of her eyes dont get swelled shut again.
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 18, 2018, 07:16:09 PM
Chrome Horned? Hahahaha! I thought I had heard em all but thats a first for me, only from you Mark. I do know Hallie and I think she is much better lookin' than the Queen of Crunch ever could be or thought she was. I'll be willing to bet you never see Hallie spin one to the RIGHT like Damitca always did. Hope she does well and goes far, Kyle needs another girl to race with, providing one of her eyes dont get swelled shut again.
I spelled her name wrong. Its Hailee. She does a mean Happy Gilmore impression. Running up to the ball to drive it. Very impressive.
Just need to wire the engine and then I can reinstall it in the chassis.
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Great work...as always Mark.
Thanks, guys. Now I'm wishing I hadn't deconstructed it so much. Also wondering if I will get some warm enough days to paint the body.
:) Looks like you may need to send this one to me.
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No, only kidding. I have enough to do already. lol
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Quote from: john2 on November 21, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
:) Looks like you may need to send this one to me.
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No, only kidding. I have enough to do already. lol
John, looks like its going to be warm and sunny tomorrow. I guess I will be able to put the first paint color on the body. Its one of those dreaded 2 tone paint jobs.
:) It will be great when you finish.
I will do some painting tomorrow myself -- but will be the walls for my race shop diorama. We will have sun and close to 70 degrees.
I was going to ask you if you needed any original parts but it looks like you have it under control. You made that old hemi look good for what comes in the kit. By the way, it wont make much difference when finished but the upper part of the dash is mounted upside down. The line is for attaching and lining up the vertical dash and the square relief is for the larger gauges. It makes no difference when assembled as you cant see it but next round, you'll know. Keep going, I have parts if you need em, just ask.
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 23, 2018, 08:34:36 PM
I was going to ask you if you needed any original parts but it looks like you have it under control. You made that old hemi look good for what comes in the kit. By the way, it wont make much difference when finished but the upper part of the dash is mounted upside down. The line is for attaching and lining up the vertical dash and the square relief is for the larger gauges. It makes no difference when assembled as you cant see it but next round, you'll know. Keep going, I have parts if you need em, just ask.
Thanks, George. Well, when you install it wrong 45 years ago I guess you are doomed to install it wrong again. I have no instructions now and apparently I didn't know how to read them 45 years ago. I'm sure that wont be the only mistake I make, but I will catch it on the 71 Plymouth I'm doing next. Maybe I did it right on that one, I'll have to check it.
Hahaha! I think I did at least three or four that way back then before I finally looked at the instruction sheet. I must have done more than one each in the entire series back when but none exist today, just some parts. Some I did up nice, some I gloo-bombed pretty bad. I still put on parts upside down, backwards, crooked and get gloo prints on them. I went from being a hurry-up young guy to a blind old fart. Dont let that piece bug you, this will be a beauty I am sure.
Mark, I have the instruction sheet for this kit.
Not that you'd need it, I'd be glad to share. :)
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Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 23, 2018, 08:34:36 PM
I was going to ask you if you needed any original parts but it looks like you have it under control. You made that old hemi look good for what comes in the kit. By the way, it wont make much difference when finished but the upper part of the dash is mounted upside down. The line is for attaching and lining up the vertical dash and the square relief is for the larger gauges. It makes no difference when assembled as you cant see it but next round, you'll know. Keep going, I have parts if you need em, just ask.
Thanks, George. Well, when you install it wrong 45 years ago I guess you are doomed to install it wrong again. I have no instructions now and apparently I didn't know how to read them 45 years ago. I'm sure that wont be the only mistake I make, but I will catch it on the 71 Plymouth I'm doing next. Maybe I did it right on that one, I'll have to check it.
Quote from: Hondo on November 24, 2018, 06:39:38 PM
Mark, I have the instruction sheet for this kit.
Not that you'd need it, I'd be glad to share. :)
Quote from: MarkJ on November 24, 2018, 07:27:17 AM
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 23, 2018, 08:34:36 PM
I was going to ask you if you needed any original parts but it looks like you have it under control. You made that old hemi look good for what comes in the kit. By the way, it wont make much difference when finished but the upper part of the dash is mounted upside down. The line is for attaching and lining up the vertical dash and the square relief is for the larger gauges. It makes no difference when assembled as you cant see it but next round, you'll know. Keep going, I have parts if you need em, just ask.
Thanks, George. Well, when you install it wrong 45 years ago I guess you are doomed to install it wrong again. I have no instructions now and apparently I didn't know how to read them 45 years ago. I'm sure that wont be the only mistake I make, but I will catch it on the 71 Plymouth I'm doing next. Maybe I did it right on that one, I'll have to check it.
Thanks , Jim. But I think that was my only major screw up on this one and once its finished it will be hard to notice.
Quote from: Lefturns75 on November 24, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
Hahaha! I think I did at least three or four that way back then before I finally looked at the instruction sheet. I must have done more than one each in the entire series back when but none exist today, just some parts. Some I did up nice, some I gloo-bombed pretty bad. I still put on parts upside down, backwards, crooked and get gloo prints on them. I went from being a hurry-up young guy to a blind old fart. Dont let that piece bug you, this will be a beauty I am sure.
Thanks, George. Its not bugging me at all. I got the first color on the body yesterday and I'm pretty happy with it. Now I will wait a week and hopefully get some more good weather and put the other color on. I'm going to have to alclad II the rear bumper. When I removed the decals that were on it the chrome came off with them. No biggee. Sometimes I think the alclad looks better then the kit chrome.
The chassis is done except for the exhaust and the tires and wheels installed.
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That sure looks good Mark!
Quote from: Gary Davis on November 26, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
That sure looks good Mark!
Thanks, Gary. Well I got the body completely painted and I used frog tape for the masking. Do your self a favor and don't believe the commercials. It doesn't work very well. I'm going to have to fix a lot of leakage of paint to paint. It might work good if your painting a wall in your house but not so much on a model car. I also got the chassis fitted to the body some what. Mpc didn't do a very good job on the gap between the cage and the roof. Just have to wait a week for the enamel to cure and I can finish this thing up.
Hey Mark...I hear you on the Frog Tape. Butt...it will work in straight lines if one burnishes the edges. At least it did for me. I still use the Tamiya tape. I got it in 4 sizes and cut it in thin strips( on a thick piece of glass) if I have to do a tight corner. I still burnish the edges using their tape. I have very little(if any) bleed thru. It's a bummer getting the DEADFUL bleed thru....I feel for ya Mark.
Thanks, David and Gary. I think I saved the screw ups this time with my sanding stick and my paint brush. luckily I had a little of the mixed color, I had to make, to do the touch up.
I just finished the two tone paint,( pink, and cream,)on the body of my 39 Chevy coupe make over to represent a straight eight hardtop Buick coupe. I used Tamiya tape for the first time, and it worked out great. I did burnish it down out of habit, and it came out without a single bleed. I don't know for sure if it was the better tape,or the thinner coats of paint from the new airbrush, but it worked great. The paint was actually some old PlastiKote that had been around so long it no longer had any propellant left in the can.
Olderndirt
Quote from: David Bogard on November 07, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
"Shelfers Unite!!" My builds are shelfers. I am a shelfer!!
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Is this a picture of you? It's nice to know what some of the people look like. I have a special file just for it. My problem is, I don't have room anymore since I retired.
Rett
Quote from: David Bogard on December 03, 2018, 11:24:16 AM
No, no, a thousand times no. That is not me! I even went back and removed the photo I used and I hope that you will too. It was just a gag that got a life of it's own. Sorry Mark.
Nothing to be sorry about , David. That's not hijacking. If you had guessed what model I am building and built one yourself and posted it, that would be hijacking. My feelings are not hurt, believe me.
I am a longtime Mopar fan, and I really like what you are doing with this one.
Thanks, Marty. Its slowly coming together.
Finally finished. More pictures in the "Cars with fenders" forum.
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Whoa! That's a real beauty, Mark! I give it an eleven just on that "pose" alone. What a transformation!
Man Mark...that looks AWESOME my friend. Great JOB!!!!!
Thanks, Gary. I really appreciate the kind words.
Quote from: Marty W on December 13, 2018, 05:25:12 PM
Whoa! That's a real beauty, Mark! I give it an eleven just on that "pose" alone. What a transformation!
Thanks, Marty I really appreciate the feedback.