Short Track and NASCAR modeling

Short Track Forums => Fab shop-under construction pics => Topic started by: Rich Sipos on December 23, 2017, 09:39:32 AM

Title: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: Rich Sipos on December 23, 2017, 09:39:32 AM
To begin Merry Christmas to all, and to all here is the L&M I have been working on, its been a chore I had 1 picture and found some on line but all were different in some way. As a kid I watched it race and had some memories of the car. I started with a Revell 41 Willys using the body and the chassis with a few mods done. The front end is from scratch the kit one was not wide enough to move the springs to the side of the frame. The body rear was rolled under to shorten it. The car had a short wheel base. The cage is out of 1/16" rod, floor and rear fire wall is .020" plastic. Thanks for looking. Enjoy
Rich
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4451/37856760922_2419b60a13_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN7w)P4140100 - Copy (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN7w) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickr(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4459/37887769341_69162905e5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZJ1HQr)P4140101 (https://flic.kr/p/ZJ1HQr) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickr(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4468/37856760822_80e242ee3c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN5N)P4140103 (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN5N) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: Dirtman on December 23, 2017, 03:03:57 PM
Looks like a fine start!

Rett
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: Bob P. on December 23, 2017, 04:56:05 PM
Nice start Rich, I'm sure this will be another masterpiece.

Bob
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: TarheelRick on December 24, 2017, 07:20:05 AM
Going to watch this one closely.  But, I am stumped by the "L&M".  Several years ago L&M was a brand of cigarettes.
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: john2 on December 24, 2017, 08:57:51 AM
 :)  I am wondering about that too.  Surely not " Late and Model. "
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: Rich Sipos on December 24, 2017, 09:25:59 AM
Back in the early years in New England not sure of other areas racers would use letters in stead of numbers, hence the L&M it was a modified that ran at the New London Waterford Speed bowl. This car and driver Billy Harman branched out to many other tracks with many feature wins. Enjoy
Rich
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4510/37856761352_19b447a8ec_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgNeW)19787056_318365295287570_5982639686034848552_o[1] (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgNeW) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: john2 on December 24, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
 :)  Thanks, Rich.  Very good looking modified.  We had one once  that went by VX.
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: Bob P. on December 24, 2017, 01:08:28 PM
I'll be watching this one closely Rich, I love your replica builds. Keep us posted.

What engine is in this car? It looks like a 348 or 409 Chevy, maybe a Mopar.

Bob
Title: Re: The L&M
Post by: Rich Sipos on December 24, 2017, 06:29:55 PM
Sorry Bob wrong ! You will have to stay tuned more coming soon !! Thanks for the views and comments. Enjoy
Rich
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: Rich Sipos on December 29, 2017, 07:56:52 AM
Here are pictures of the engine and a trial fit of the cage and body. The engine is a GMC 292 ci  6 cylinder with 3 Buick carbs. What is different is the way it sits in the car. It was mounted 180 degrees , or layed down and the rotation was counter clock wise. Thanks fore looking Enjoy  Rich (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4484/37167981013_774d6f0c50_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YCpBQR)P4140105 (https://flic.kr/p/YCpBQR) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickr (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4486/37856760782_ff7941bd15_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN57)P4140106 (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN57) by [(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4473/24035914818_6b762646df_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CBYm5s)P5280120 (https://flic.kr/p/CBYm5s) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickrurl=https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/]Richard Sipos[/url], on Flickr(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4496/37856760752_0d7e0c663d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN4A)P5280118 (https://flic.kr/p/ZFgN4A) by Richard Sipos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/156774118@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: Dirtman on December 29, 2017, 08:07:32 AM
This is really cool. And leave it to Rich to come up with something REALLY different! Anxious to see the finished product!

Rett
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: Olderndirt on December 29, 2017, 01:49:28 PM
That counterclockwise rotation trick saw some interest out here on the left coast for a short time. GMC 292's had their following as well. Much of that changed here when the dirt went away, and the blacktoped high banks arrived. If it wasn't for the cost of changing the rotation of the engines, some of the racers might still be doing it. It sure makes it easier to stick down low in the corners. Our local track is only 1/4 mile, high banked, with almost no straights. So, having the engine rotation pull you into the corners, instead of out of them, could make the difference.

  Olderndirt
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: Bob P. on December 29, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
Very interesting Rich, I'll keep an eye on the progress on this one.

Bob
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: TarheelRick on December 30, 2017, 07:36:29 AM
How are you going to model the counter rotation in that engine? ;)  Of course with your skills I can see it will not be a problem.  Interesting history.  I seem to remember some talk about that process back in the mid to late 60's, possibly an article is the old Stock Car Racing magazine.
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: john843 on December 31, 2017, 08:18:52 AM
Cool project! Seems I remember Smokey Yunick was an early proponent of reverse-rotation or revived interest in it somewhat. As TarheelRick said, I too, remember an article in SCR (or something similar) that was a few pages long and is what explained the advantages of the concept to me so I fully understood what it accomplished. I had heard of reverse rotation before that article but actually thought it somehow facilitated increasing engine power as opposed to enhancing handling. You're off to a super start on this and I'll definitely be following it.

John 
Title: Re: The L&M Pictres added 12/29
Post by: sentsat71 on January 02, 2018, 07:22:26 AM
This is coming along quite nicely.!!
Neat story on the engine!